They will put a hurt on anything u hit. My son shot a hog a couple of years ago and that bullet pulverized him. I use them in my old BK 92 Knight and the shoot pretty good. My grandson took 2 does this year using that ML. They did way more damage than the SW on our deer. Blood trail is awsome. Cost is the big thing. If u shoot much they can make it an expensive range session. Barnes bullets are great bullets in CF rifles and in my SW 50.