I have had 3 elk under 5 yards completely duck arrows placed 2 inches up from the brisket. I prefer a 35 yard shot at an unsuspecting animal than a 5 yard shot at an animal that knows something is up. One was a small rag bull that had a tree covering all vitals except the lower 4 inches of brisket. The arrow went under the tree branches and burried in the ground - and also over his back. I was amazed. When in close now on elk and they are weary or lookin like something is "up". I aim a full foot beneath the animal - If I miss - it is clean. I took one right thru the heart this way. Clean and quick - euthanization with a sharp broadhead is the way to go.