amen to that, then again take out the ole 7mm or the ole mans 45-70, wait for deer to come in sight at a hundred yards and shoot at the wood pile...I would be they aint gonna just turn there heads to look, more often then not they're gonna run like mad lighting!! That is why I do believe both....

ps got hunting october whitetails 1 and 2 on the floor, just watched them for the umpteenth million time last weekend <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>