Damn ! that's not right. I met and talked to a couple of new york state outfitters and i was going to book 1. I just don't remember which 1. it was the 1 that the guy had his camcorder hooked straight up to the tv and said he didn't even get a chance to put it on a vcr tape yet.I remember watching the tape. there were some nice bucks walking behind the tractor while they were feeding them. i was verry interested.He also had told me to actually call him up and i could come up and look around and also go out with him to feed the deer. But i'll tell ya what, i will be at the show between the 9th and the 12th in january. I'll definitely watch my back. Thank you for your info.