Npaden, I didn't even list the fees for hunting elk in PAwhich is a non-refundable lottery that don't earn preference points when not selected. Not to mention the disparity in trophy deer numbers. Sure there are nice bucks in PA but nowhere near what's out in the west and midwest. Seriously I'm just happy to fill my doe tag with the way the herd numbers are headed. Oh and by the KYbuckhunter who do you think antes up most of the money for the state game lands, isn't you or any of the other local boys.