i know one thing is that i own a cheapy NEF Pardner which weighs in the 5-6lb range. kicks like a mule! I shoot 3in. 00 Buckshot, thats enough to bring any one to there knees <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> not really but you know what i mean, the reason i ask is becuase everyone around here seems to say that rifles kick like a 10gauge 3.5in or something