Yep its a loaded quetion, Because it depends on alot of factors, where are you hunting? Here in Mi if you told a kid he had to wait for a book deer that kid will be fishing next year, but if you are in ILL or IA you might want to wait alittle bit and teach paitence. What if you were in the woods that first day and a 150 class walked up your dad was going to tell you no you have to wait?? I vote personal choice if a doe makesthe kidhappy and that is whats there go for it if its a spike or 180 go for it.. Walt