Wisewood, the brass measure is 100 grains by volume, your father's scale is by weight. You want to use the volume measure.

Outdoorslover, you sound very happy and I for one am happy for you. I was thinking today (always dangerous) that I wish we had a way to decribe our target results other than group size. What was you MPI (mean point of impact at 100) and in which quadrant? How about at 50?

If you said I shot 6 rounds with this combination with 3.5" group, MPI of 4" in the Southeast quadrant, I'd get a much better visual of your success. And then if you said, you shot the same group size at 50, with an MPI of 2.5" in the Northeast quadrant, we might all learn more about these weapons.

I was just studying my two targets from the last two weekends out in the shop (after putting out a goose rig in the dark before the ground freezes, snow squalls now). I was shooting 270 Sabertooth, 80 RS at 100 both times, with 4X scope. 3 shots each time. The first target, group was 3.5", MPI of 4, Southeast. Second target group 2.3", MPI of 4, also Southeast. MPI's were 1" apart. At 50, this load printed a 3 shot group of 4", MPI 4.5", Northeast.

I'm feeling pretty confident that if I now move my scope UP 2", Left 3.5", I'm gonna have paydirt. I'll find out Sunday!

So give me the details!