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Old 01-24-2007 | 04:51 PM
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Default RE: Good-bad-adequate

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What do each of you consider a good, a bad, and an adequate group? Let's say at like 100 yards. What is a very good group for you, a very bad one, and a perfectly adequate one for hunting?
@100
Good group with a scoped inline - sub 2"
Good group with a Pivoting Hammer (leanerd a new term for a Hawken) -> I am not really sure yet still working on it but I would like to be sub 3"
Very bad group scoped inline -> any thing over 2.5"
Very bad group with open sights (Hawken) -> 4"

Adequate for hunting 2.5" scoped
Adequate for hunting 3" Hawken - I may be dreaming

Now, what groups can you consistently shoot at 100 yards anytime? What is your setup, bullets, powder, etc?
Sub 2" with any of my inlines... 100/110 grains T7-2f with a variety of sabotted bullets

What is the difference in your shooting with a scope versus open sights? I'm guessing you shoot much better with your scope. What is your average group with each?
Because of my age now I am a far better shooter with a scope than open sights... A ton more confidence with a scope because I shoot scopes 98% of the time... As stated above...

What is your maximumdistance that you shoot when hunting or on the range?
Most of the time I am shooting 100 yards with scopes and 75 yards with open sights... however I can not help myself at times finding the longest breakable target I can find and give it a shot.... Cascadedad and myself foud ourselves shooting at a bush 614 yards away one day. He was shooting a peep site White, I was shooting a open sight (fiber optic) Renegade...

Finally, how do you normally shoot? With a rest? Without? Do you shoot much worse without the rest? If you use a rest, what kind do you use? Does it cradle the whole gun or do you just rest the front? Also, do you shoot better with a full rest versus onethat you just rest the front of the gun on?
We do not have ranges up here - I have to drive to a couple of rock pits. I use a portable (fold up) bench a caldwell adjusting front front rest and sand bag back rest. By far I shoot tighter groups with the double rest although I often only shoot with just the front rest especially when I start shooting breakable targets...

I gotta tell you those were thought provoking and did not go as quick as I thought they would + I was really trying to be brief...






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