I these threads on Pa deer management we all know how passionate some get over the issue. It is very important to alot of us. Some folks understand the PGC's management plan others want the DCNR to take it over thinking that they would listen to the hunters of Pa. To those of you who think the DCNR would do a better job I suggest you read pages 69 through 73of Deer Wars. I won't go to far into it, but the DCNR has been pushing the PGC for most of the herd reduction that some of you say is way out of hand. So next time you want to blame the PGC get out and buy Deer Wars first, do some reading and see for yourself where all the pressures are coming from to further reduce the herd. And a t the same time you can learn that the PGC hasn't given them half of what they wanted in DMAP tags for State Forest Lands. It a real eye opener.