I shot a Big 9pt a few years back, and the first thing I noticed when I seen it, was how Big its nose was, and that it was limping. After recovering the Buck and getting a closer look at it, He had gore and punctures all over him and had taken a tine up thenose so hard it had torn the snout compltle away from the jawline and skull with bone damage. It could have been a Tine or Brow tine!