I shoot the 835 and I don't think the kick is all that bad with 3 1/2" shells. I hunt turkey with it and never really had any complaints even when patterning new shells for it. The top of the barrel is ported. I think they just started doing that within the last 5 years or so. Maybe that's the difference. All I know is it kills turkey,pheasant,rabbit,and clay birds as well.


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