the new models you can get a rail that goes around you. the bow platform is springy and takes alittle getting use to . one thing you need to plan on is that when you bring in any climber you have your work cut out for you. finding the right size tree and taper as well as getting a tree that has some cover. if you plan on hunting all day and you get the wheel kit for it. you will have a great set up. you can bring all your gear and packs and deer strapped to it and wheel it out. this takes some practie and is some work. if you plan on just jumping in on a hunting spot and hunting a couple hours here and there you might want to look at a lighter stand.