thanx guys...believe me i love shooting and used to shoot a bow when i was young and loved it..then my dad quit and i never advanced up to a decint bow...i love spending my free time in the woods and shooting...ive been wanting to get into this great sport for years just dad quit when i was young and i wasnt old enough to go alone..now this coming season im 16 and will be alowed to go alone and will be driving hopefully by bow season opens if not i got woods and spots ready for me behind my house i can walk to..i will look funny carrying my 3d back there and my bow and stand to practice but im going to give it all i got and im going to try my best to take my first deer with a bow my first season...everday after school i can hunt if i dont work..i have the free time to practice and hunt and im ready..i already lost a girlfriend due to my hunting..she asked if i was going to take her to the xmas dance and i told her its the last day of rifle season shes nuts...she found another date and i left her...didnt bother me one bit..i got to go hunting and then to shoot my buckmark that day so i had a blast!..thanx alot guys...and nodose and the others with the formula...we just learned that in geometry! i was one of the kids yelling at the teacher because wed never use it! thats pretty neat how it is useful!.....thanx alot...