I went lookin for a nice fly rod my wife wanted to buy for me for graduating with a 3.65 (BSBA MANAGEMENT) well, I went to BPS and they had stuff Id never heard of. White river name brand. They did have some G loomis, but mostly white river. More expensive than a SAGE FLI and all made in china. So, I went and bought a SAGE made here in the old USA for LESS MONEY! I am glad I refrained from BPS. I as well only use them to examine products. EJ