Dan, no harm. I didn't mean to get nasty with you and no I don't feel good about name calling on the net. I am sorry. The point I was making about the wolf was people have opinions and when it comes to hunting I think we should stick together. After i wrote my post I realized the situation you may face in you area. When we first leased our land it took us three years to get it to where the deer were over 1.5 years old and it took allot of convincing too. So I see your point where a good percentage of hunters up there go to shoot big deer and you got guys shooting smaller ones from out of state where they can most likely shoot the same deer or bigger in their home state. Add in the fact that ifsome big buck hunters in that areasee less deer it makes them sour.