Thanks for your 2 cents. I already shoot to a handicap of 9, but thanks for the advice. I should have known that you don't own land. It's funny to me that we see posts of guys paying for hunts, they get bashed and hear that others would NEVER pay to hunt. Now when I am looking for solutions to a legitimate problem, you tell me to take up golf. If you don't like reading pages on a certain thread, go to another thread that peaks your interest. To belittle and say we don't understand the tradition or have had a bad experience is moronic. It is not a pain in the but SOMETIMES! I can't hunt my own land because of the dogs. Seriously, this is a no-brainer, stick to breaking up the fights over Spiderman.