You know its just a dadgone shame. Knight was the leader for over a decade, and the most innovated blackpowder company out there. Inline and technical advances anyway. But they got complacent, and relyed on the disc system for too long with nothing new. It was a great system. But in this game, when you got it up, you need to keep it up. The inline was a huge advancement coming to market. The 209 system was another. The closed primer system was another. I am not sure what else can be done in the ML world. Maybe its reached the end of its road.