Try going here: http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/searchpro.aspx?phrase=Load+Apex&author=&fo rumid=26&topicreply=both&message=body& timeframe=%3E&timefilter=-30&language=single&top=300&criteria=AN D&submitbutton=+OK+

These are search results for load, Apex. There are some in there. I have an Apex, but I have only shot 270 ballets with 80 grains Goex and 375 SSB with 70 Grains Goex. They both shot excellent. Look for Dmurphy's load which shot 3" at 200 yards (I think 130 pyro pellets and 250 shockwave). There are a few others mentioned.