Sproulman, I'm really hoping that you are a young fellow.
Your posts simply do not reflect mature thinking. You go to bat to criticize those who are "happy" calling them liars and saying they are not sportsmen.
How ironic is that when three and four years ago, the same complainers were predicting there would be no doe to harvest in the next year or following year......yada, yada yada.
But hey,those hunters who actually do hunt, are still filling their freezers. Where did those deer come from? And what would be gained by lying, if those deer aren't really there?
If you are so concerned about youngsters, take a few hunting where there "is" deer to be hunted.
This thing about the honorable folks at USP is really amazing.
Will you honestly answer an opinion poll here? I mean "honest" answer?

Do you think deer tearing the linings of swimming pools is the reason for herd management?
Do you think deer eating the bark of trees is the reason for herd management?
Do you think deer scratching trees with their hooves is the reason for herd management?
Do you think deer tearing up the greens of golf courssis the reason for herd management?
Do you think "well over 200,000 deer are killed by predators each year and that is the reason for herd management?
Do you think cougars have a direct impact on the deer herd andthat is the reason for herd management?
Do you think the PGC knew that our coyotes were mixed with wolf genetics and kept it a secret from us?

All these things were accusations of the "good guys in the USP.

Oh, by the way, more than twenty years ago I, and hundreds of thousands of others, read in Pennsylvania Game News about the coyote-wolf hybrids. Seems USP guys were out to lunch that day.

So, how about the above? Does that show their expertise in knowing about deer and deer management?
How about Baileyhill? How do you feel about those claims?