I have to agree with you on the fact that every tom won't be dooped by a deek. The fact that you hunt public land is another reason, everybody uses them!! After geting shot at comming in to a motionless deek, I wouldn't come in either!! I still carry my deeks with me, and depending on the situation, I'll put them out. Good point about hunting public land!!! If I were you beretta, try to get permission to hunt on some private land, this will decreae the amount of hunting pressure greatly! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>