Remember, this is a thread on the roar/growl calls. Feel free to start a scent thread.

Why, for asking a relative and good question? You said yourself, your article on contained all of the vocalizations of the whitetail which you were not "smart" enough to call it a roar/growl? It's because it isn't necessarily that, like you said, it's an aggressive grunt sequence so when the Drury's named it the "growl" and the Primos's named it the "roar", it's all marketing. They would sell a call that simply was named "aggressive grunting" call. We can all do that with existing calls.

I didn't say that only 4 of us with 100 years of experience, hell davidmil has 50 years himself, I said us veterans of more than 25 years experience and 100' of years of treestand time...that could be as many as 20 members or more. My point is and still is, everyone who is saying they have had success with the growl/roar has had it using grunting action. This makes these two calls a great marketing angle. I've been calling deer for over 20 years now, I bought my first wood doe bleat when I was in my early teens. I've called countless whitetails into bow range, both buck and doe and neither ever "roared/growled". The only deer I've ever heard do this was the one we ran down and bleed out. He couldn't get up but stood on his front legs, swung toward us and bellowed..../roared/growled....no deer within mile would have come to that and I believe any deer that heard it, exited the area. So I ask:

How many Roar/Growl owners here actually Roared/Growled a buck into bow range?

Where is the Roar/Growl within these vocalizations? : http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practical_bowhunter/deergrunting/deergrunt.html

Is it at the end of the Rage'n grunts or the Buck Bawl?

Is the growl/roar a brand new phenomenon or a great marketing ploy?