i've hunted lorain county (flat land) most of my life. the past 5 yrs i've been going to vinton, hocking, and ross county (apalatian country) w/a group of guys which is very close to muskingum. its taken me until this yr to figure out whats going on down there, but i finally did. and man did i ever have an awsome week this yr. had bucks running does every day. i saw 7 bucks and 4 does in 5 days of bowhunting. now to put this in perspective the previous 4 yrs i saw a total of 3 deer.

so i would say if this is your first yr be patient its gonna take a while. give me the conditions that you were hunting in..ie terrain, food source etc and i will give you some pointers on how to hunt down there....i was stuck in the same frustrating rut (no pun intended) that you are for my first 4yrs in that area.