Outdoor's rifle is a shooter, atfirst it was, it wont group after 12 shots,didnt swab because its to much work, then its i swabbed between every shot and i love it now and then its,throw up my arms,i shot out in the wind and didnt hit anything. We cant figure out the problem all the time, 18mph wind is very powerful. Shooting in wind thats going west to east or the other way is like shooting at a walking deer, gotta lead it! I offered to buy it at the price he paid and then some. I think my offer was more than fair for a rifle that doest shoot forsquat and doesntoffer a warranty to me. What else is there do say or do? You can only do so much.