Thanks again everyone for your opinions. The reason I know so little about the guns is like I said earlier I am new to Deer Hunting and the rifles have been in the gun cabinet forever, at my Dad's house. I feel kinda silly being 28 yrs old and not knowing much about them. But hey you dont know unless you ask. I plan on picking them both up from his house this weekend and running some rounds through them. And to think all these years I spent 100% of my time Duck and Goose hunting. Which by the way I will never stop ,but Deer Hunting for sure will be in there as well now!!!