I was using open sights guys. The PB's have shot great for me so farand I doubt if they were the problem. As I have shot the Apex very much now and have not figured out why I can't hold groups, I am gonna go and return it tonight along with some other stuff. I can get the Z5 Omega for no more money out of my pocket.I bought some junk I didn't need and can return that, the rifle, and use a $20 off coupon and buy that TC for no more cash. I think it's definetely the way to go. I would like to clarify that I do not think that your Winchesters or CVA's are junk, I just think that they are a bit lesser guns than the TC's.

I probably gave up on the Apex too soon but it's really not about that. I just want the absolute best gun for my money.I know that if I don't get the Omega I'll wishI did later. For 60 extra dollars, I see no reason not to go for it. Why not get the better warranty and resale value as well as a name I completely trust? It seems logical to me. I'm sorry if I let you down by giving up so fast but I can tell it's not gonna quite make me happy enough. If I start shooting bad with the Omega I'll know it's not the gun[8D]--jk. Thanks for all your help guys. I've made up my mind. Sorry frontier gander, you'll have to find a different one. I'm returning it tonight.

Do you guys blame me for getting an Omega?