well i finally seen a buck worth taking this season ,,,hes an 8pt with a 23 in inside spread, he was chaseing a doe bout 730 the other morning ,,i used my 7mm stw with a shepherd scope, i want even bother saying how far he was ,but it was a head on ,faceing me shot center the neck he hit the ground like a champ,,,i havent got a way to post a pix ,but maybe i could send it to someone who could post it for me ..