They were if you asked for them. If you didn't get something from Chuck/Enigma....it's because you didn't ask for it. I'm not saying you're "wrong" Don......I'm saying there isn't an option I've heard of that Chuck won't implement into your garment.

Funny thing is......I'll bet if you called him and told him you were displeased with the jacket you have.....or that you wanted (__________) options implemented....he'd still do it.

I've said all along......ALL of these patterns work. If I had a relationship with Jeff.....I'd likely wear his products and give my personal endorsement. I've never seeked out anything from Chuck/Enigma....nor any other camo company. I'm not clothed/paid/nor do I receive ANY compensation for using his products. He asked me to field test it......and I was glad to do so. I still am.

If your current camo (predator/ASAT/etc...) company will give you that type of service.....then I'd say you're in a great situation. Don't switch!! They're all good!

Jeff