If you want to start cheap try a Tru-Glo Gobblestopper. As others have mentioned it all depends on the individual gun, and the different shells have a big impact too. Rockby, Penhook is located east of Rocky Mount and south of Smith Mtn. Lake. Doninva, if you need any help just let me know; I live here in Roanoke and hunt the area near Burnt Chimney some.