I just this weekend saw the new Copper John Dead Nuts Competition prototype at their factory. It is going to be released in 2x weeks for the public to buy. It is very very slick.........this thing is a true microadjust sight that allows microadjusability of each and every pin, windage, elevation, 2nd axis, screw in lens, extended fibers, .010 .019 and .029 pins, etc. This thing is the real deal and is light years ahead of every pin sight on the market. I would wait a few weeks and at least look at one before you buy.