couple have been head on.. i will try to sit by a log.. then i can use that as a rest.. that way i am usually lower than the deer.. my bullet is traveling at slight angle upwards..put the cross hairson her lips and squeeze off.. i wouldn't recomend these shots to someone who doesn't shoot their rifle more than 1 hr a yearor know deer behavior at these far ranges though.. i also do a lot of practicing on squirrels with a 17hmr.. builds confidence in ones abillity for them shots..