Sorry Gmmat im just letting off some steam about the topic.. its a touchy topic here in maryland.. i was bow hunting in public land the first time in years with bow an some muzzle loader hunters was throwing dirt clogs an pissing around the area i was hunting that just not right.. talking trash because we get the pick first.. well what i always tell them is go get your self a bow an go bow hunting then.. this was 3-4 weeks ago it made me mad as all heck.. happy hunting