I went to wally world today to get a prescription filled and had to go to the hunting department and walked out of there with a brand new Gorilla Wolverine which is basicall a Greyback magnum climber but a pound heavier for 54 Dollars and i couldnt believe my eyes. I save 100 dollars for a pound of weight you better believe it so even if you dont like wally world this one deal that is worth checking out