THWACK first let me say I am sorry to hear your wife joined the ranks of non-hunter drive killers. I hope she wasn't injured.

I hope I did not come off to strong in my first reply, when I read your original post some of your statements do kind of lump all drive hunters as unethical, if I went overboard on that I am sorry.

The post that Charlie P made was excellent in regards to what could concievably happen to hunting if we as hunters, no matter the method, start deciding what form of hunting is unethical. The gentleman who allowed me to bow hunt his property this season is a life time gun hunter and told me flat out that he really didn't like bow hunters because of the number of dead deer he has found on his place that were shot by bowhunters that did not recover them. It took me over an hour to convince him that I was not "that kind of bowhunter" before he gave me permission to hunt his land.

I agree that when someone or group is doing what you mentioned they are slobs and unethical, but we need to all be aware that some methods of hunting have been going on here in the US for generations and in reality amny of the people who did in the past hunt with dogs and drives for years with guns are also the people responsible for the hunting we enjoy today. They are the people that pushed both the federal and state governments to enact and enforce game laws that would allow the white tail and all other game species we hunt today to thrive in the numbers they do today. We bow hunters owe the hunting we enjoy today to the men and women who hunted with guns, dogs and drives years ago.

We all need to realize that as long as the kills are clean, quick and legal, they are ethical, even though it may be a method we do not like personally.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club