I certainly see no fun, excitement, sense of pride or sport in doing &quot;drives&quot; like this, although I can see the value as a systematic method of thinning the deer population and increasing the scavenger population. I don't know why guys like this don't just go to the grocery store and buy a side of beef and some beer and fire up the bbcue. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Yes, perhaps there are a few &quot;well planned&quot; and &quot;strategic&quot; drives that are put on somewhere in the country but most gunners I know scare me and some are very highly educated people but have no common sense when it comes to hunting. I think most good bow hunters make great gun hunters. Not to throw another log in the fire <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> but how about the fact that Milo Hansen's monster buck was taken via a drive like the one mentioned above. A group of gun hunting's finest dogged this beast to it's ultimate demise...what a shame.