Maybe you just misunderstood my post. Sorry sometimes I don't write all that well. How many people have ever just joined the club without the intent of also having their name put in the book. What I mean is; How many people have waited until they shot a book buck to actually join the P&Y club. Or how many members of th eclub don't have their name in the book.My guess would be the vast majority have their name in the book because they have taken this route to become a P&Y member. By that I mean they waited until they shot a P&Y deer and then said "I think I will join P&Y, because I really want to support conservation, and I guess I will have my name put in the book while I am at it."