Here ya go BT.This is a small area I opened up by cutting trees.Less then 50 yards back the canopy is closed yet nothing but ferns.A forester told me opening up is great for wildlife but not for logging because the maples get limbs on them down to the ground.But what about the browse line?

There's young oaks in here,red maple,cherry,and various wild flowers.It looks like eventally the cherry will shade out the oaks.No fertilizer or lime here