Whoa training can be done on a bench so dog is chest high. I do it with all my pups every day when I come home or let them out of the pen, they enjoy it because it gets them up to your level where they like it (its why dogs jump up on you they want to be up there with you)Then when they have that down pat you can use it to reinforce the Point to make them stay on point and not creep or bump. Pigeons are easy to catch and keep. They will home after a month or so in the pen/cage you build. They have cheap orange mesh releases you can buy to release the bird when you want. Tie dog off when he is on point to hold them there then release bird. A video beat a book because you can see hwat they are talking about.