well guys, i couldnt wait til xmas break to shoot em, and ended up pickin up an Element, and i LOVE it!, its fast, smooth, quiet, and forgiving. I also shot the reflex super slam and another reflex, but i like the Element the best, it was shorter, and seemed like a perfect buy. The shop owner just marked down the '06 bows and i got the bare bow for $300 and it cost me $470 after i got it all decked out. It's a very appealing bow!