Zrex, I actually, for once, see that you are making a valid claim, and I actually see how dumb I am now for owning a few magnums, when a standard caliber would do just fine, with less recoil. I think the way I hunt game has just changed, I have seen the er of my ways, and I regret it, what good does that extra power do you? None at all, only bragging rights is about it, and really, that doesn't even matter. Zrex, thank you for pointing all this out to me, now, I have some soul searching to do.