thats another gun i can not shoot. The cva optima, its stock is to high and cuts deep into my cheek. Even my 30-30 marlin is no longer useable to me with open sights. I will admit however that my first words i chose were a bit over powering. they made it seem like i was bashing the quality when i was not. I was simply stating that the stock on the omega i looked at what cheap and did not offer me enough drop for fit me comfortably. The encore was just unusable. By the way, does TC or any other american made rifle give stats on their barrels like cva/bpi? i recall a conversation where they did not give the stats. My 2 most favorite so called *explosions waiting to happen" And show me an up to date injury with any cva/traditions/italian made firearm. RW simply talks about the cva apollo. In todays world, the news would be ALL OVER any company who's gun exploded.