MY son had permission to hunt this farm about 6 years before I started hunting again. I hunted there for 2 years before the farmer would sign my permission slip. Now my son and I both offer to help him around the farm. My son got the farmer a good deal on a car since his wife works for a car mfg. We both take them venision because they like to eat it.I took themone of my recipes and the marinade to go in it. I took them some of the antelope I shot in another state. I gave them a copy of the book on fishing I recently published. They now treat me and my son like part of the family. We never ask the farmer to let us bring any friends along as we know he is very particular about who he lets on his land. This year when he signed my permission slip and I thanked him he thanked me for helping to keep the deer herd under control. He wants us to call him when we are going to hunt. He told me that if he sees our vehicles after he thinks we should have gone home that he figures we may be in trouble and he'll come to look for us.