ORIGINAL: dmacl
I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with rounds from blackjackhill.com. I'm looking at rounds for my daughter to shoot out of her new Winchester Apex and found this site. The prices are what really have me interested. At $10-$15 per 50 she can put a lot more rounds through her rifle than if she shoots PowerBelts or Shockwaves. I know the stuff they are selling isn't fancy or high tech, but if it will do the job thats whats important.
Is there any reason for me not to try this stuff out? I am new to BP so I really don't have a super clear understanding of why I would use a Powerbelt over a Shockwave over a Maxi-ball or whatever. I do understand that a ball out of her 1:28 twist barrel isn't good. But beyond that I"m still learning. But other than that, what restrictions should I be worried about. Since she is paying for her own supplies, I want her to get as much shooting for her money as possible, without wasting her money on complete crap. I'm not the kind of guy who has to have the most expensive, newest, absolute best of everything, but I do want a quality product that will get the job done. And if she doesn't have to pay a buck a shot she'll be able to do more shooting.
damcl,
Buffalo ballets are available in 245 and 270 weights. Some discussion of them took place in the "Newbie with a sidekick" thread including links to buy them. They range from $9 to 12 dollars per box of 50 and she could hunt with them. The lower weight of the ballets will equal lesser recoil than the slugs blackjack is selling.
Roundballs are fine if you don't push them too hard. If all you plan to do with them in the 1:28 Apex is to plink and small game hunt, by all means, take advantage of the low cost of roundball. I suggested them just so you could have alot of fun at the range with her without breaking the bank. I use 20 grains and a pillowticking patch. A great load for rabbit and squirrel for recoil just little more than a .22. I'm not recommending the use of prb in her 1:28 Apex for deer hunting.
Here's some good cheap plinking loads
.490 Round ball$.10240 ballet $ .22
20 grains Pyro P $.0460 grains Pyro P$ .12
Pillowticking (cut)$.02 Winchester 209 $ .03
Winchester 209 $.03-----------------------
---------------------- Per shot$.37
per shot$.19
For the roundball, its like buying box of 20 shell for $4.00, or 50 for $10. Kinda like 22 mag ammo and has about the same energy for small game.
For the 240 ballet loadis going to recoil in the heavy Apex similar to a typical 243.
But if they are crap, by all means, ignore them. Personally, I prefer to starta youngsterwith inexpensive materials, as it is me that generally has to pay for them. I really wouldnot recommend a 350 to 500 grain conical tointroduce her tomuzzleloading and train her in safemuzzleloading practice.I just wouldn't do it.