i heard that the all camo isnt worth the extra $$ and that it flakes off. i just did some experimenting with those remington kleenbore primers and wow! They are #1 in my book. i fired one kneelbore primer in my x-150 and when took my swab and ran it down the barrel a couple times and pulled it out with only a specks of black here and there. I fired one cci 209 primer after i cleaned the barrel and did it all over again and this time i had resistence with only the swab! the swap as i expected came out black. The only down fall i found with the kleenbore primers, they love to throw burning powder in your eye, as i found out as im typing with one eye and a washcloth over my other hurting eye. The cci primers did it also but no where near as bad. But for you guys that are going to order or have bought new rifles, i'd switch to the kleen bored. Very very nice primers that dont foul the barrel nearly as much. Sorry pglasgow, didnt mean to rob your post but i thought it was fitting.