This year was my sons first seasion.He watches all the shows and has a few pieces of fancy equipment.He hunted morning and evening rain or shine right up to the rut and hardly saw a deer.I was usually hunting in another area closeby but not close enough to cut deer off headed twards him.(1000-2000 yds) finally i saw that he was only 10-15 ft up the tree and told him 20-25 would be better.After that he started seeing lots of deer but they were all too small.The last weekend of early seasion he decided to shoot a buck.When i asked him about the size he said it was bigger but not realy big.When we found it i thaught it was a mule! He had to break 200 real easy.Pounds that is.Turns out that my son was so high up that everything looked small!He put his time in before and after work though and he deserved that 9 pointer.