In our county, in NC, we arent' allowed to run dogs. We were invited to a hunt club in another county that does permit the dogs. This particular club, makes 2 dog runs in the morning. They go collect the deer, tag and process around lunchtime. The afternoon is reserved for stand hunting only. I do know for a fact that even when the dogs have been run, a successful hunt is not impossible. I saw several very nice bucks come in that evening. this is a very big group of hunters, so it really surprised me. I guess it comes down to how thorough the dogs are in thier runs. Most are running off sight of the deer, unless they don't strike anything in the first few minutes of turnout. Some deer are smart enought to circle behind the dogs and avoid being pushed out of the woods.