The HOWA 1500 rifle may seem like a joke to a lot of people, but let me tell you, HOWA is probably the best deal going these days, it just a Weatherby Vanguard with a different name and a chaper price, I would put the quality up their with a Remington 700. But, Savage doesn't mess around either, they make very good guns as well, you can't go wrong either way.