I have one in 30-06, last yearI killed 7 deer two big hogs and a bobcat with it, all were one shot kills, this year I killed a 165 class 14 point with it. I shoot 165gr BTSP out of it and it groups 1" at 100yds.As far as the scope that comes on it, I junked it and put on a Millet 8-24X50 for long range shots, I can shot anything that a VLS orA-bolt in the same caliber can, last year on my trip to Kentucky the guys talked alot of smack about it on the way there, a day and half later I had already tagged out 3 deer in 3 shots with one shot over 300yds, they shut up after that...