we definently could compete for a couple more years...i dont know how many...some of you guys are kinda OLD (i think that was my first GOOD crack on you guys!! lol) but seriously we got a good team...and you guys are 100% correct..if we had some of the bucks that got away and bigger bucks that got shot second we would be on top. i cant help but to think i should have added roughly 100 inches..or if that monster i saw opening day of rifle came by probably closer to 130 inches...but thats why its called hunting...if i dont do any good in the late season i got my hopes up for next season....i really think that biggun i seen the opening day of rifle is still alive....a kid killed an 11pt monster in the general area...but i seen pics and it dont look like the one i seen..its rack is BIG and thick and HIGH...the one i seen i thought was wide and "perfect" long tines and semetrical...so i cant help but to think hes alive..and hope hes back on my hill come the late season...and my orchard may pay up...ive seen bruisers in there in the late season...so we will see....