Why would Remington, savage, winchester, ruger, ect. stake thier whole reputation as a firearms maker on selling wal-mart a cheap knock off rilfle/shotgun ???That makes no sence to me at all. I have bought severel rifles from them and I have found nothing wrong or different with them.I wonder if remington makes thier ammunition with less powder for them [X(][X(][X(][X(]Come on people its called free enterprise that is how our country became so rich in assets. Dont blame wal-mart for being good at it.Hell yes they sell some cheaper makes and models of products, dont buy them if want the top of the line.It does'nt make them a bad company ,Some people cant afford a mercedes or a jag but they like to have something in its place. I like what James B had to say if you dont like them stay away its pretty simple!!!